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Would Matthew Stafford Make The Detroit Lions A Better Team?
A.J. Reilly: But here's a good question. At this point, regardless of the loss, Goff or Stafford, who do you think is having a better season? Two years in.
Eric Vincent: Two years in, who's having a better, so who's played better two years, based on what they've done so far?
A.J. Reilly: Who's having a better season this year, basically?
Eric Vincent: Oh, just this season.
A.J. Reilly: Well, two years in, that's what the question is.
Eric Vincent: So two years. So it's not this season, it's two years in that we're,
A.J. Reilly: it's last year and this year.
Eric Vincent: Oh, from last year to this year. Okay. Who's been better? Gosh. You know what? I think a Super Bowl just separates everything. And I think that's the only thing. If Matthew Stafford doesn't have that Super Bowl, maybe it's a conversation, but again, he got to the playoffs and helped get Cooper Kupp, the triple Crown. I think that season alone and then based on how bad the Detroit Lions were, even with how good Goff and the offenses look this year, I still think, that that edge would be for Stafford I think.
A.J. Reilly: Legitimate. Listen I'm all for supporting our guys. Like Jared Goff's our quarterback, he's gonna be our quarterback next year. We've already resigned ourselves to that fact. But let me ask you a question, and maybe I'll ask this question to the commenters too. Would this team be seven and eight if Matthew Stafford were its quarterback?
Eric Vincent: I don't think so. I don't think they lose, I don't think they go one in six with Stafford under center to start off.
A.J. Reilly: Not at all. I don't think so, and I can't, I like, the fact that we are comparing these two guys, they are universes apart. They are not the same quarterback. They are not the same quarterback.
This team would not be seven and eight of Jared Goff or if Matt Stafford were, it's quarterback still. Jared Goff is doing. In this system, because of the offensive line that he has and the weapons that he has. Why is Matt Stafford, basically his career on its deathbed right now, they're all lying because he has no offensive line to speak of and they're all Swish cheese.
He's on his back constantly. Yep. So to compare numbers and just look at a box score. Yeah. It looks like Goff's having a better season and he is. Statistically, is he the better quarterback? No. No. Ricky says we're doing revisionist history now. I don't think we all, not really. I don't think we.
Eric Vincent: No. Look we're assessing these two quarterbacks. Goff is in a very good, situation.
A.J. Reilly: So was Ricky a Stafford guy or he hates Stafford?
Eric Vincent: Stafford? No, he likes Stafford. So I'm confused with his take on that. I don't think this is revisionist history.
I think if you look at what you could put Stafford in with this O-line, these weapons, the creativity of Ben Johnson, we saw how we played well with Sean McVay, so another creative mind for him to work with. I don't think that's revisionist history.
A.J. Reilly: Yeah. And listen, listen. We're not gonna sit here and re-litigate should that trade have happened, that trade 100% should have happened. Okay. 100% for both sides. Worked for both sides. For both sides. It worked out. The Rams got their Super Bowl. We collected draft picks and that trade made the Lions a better franchise. Or it had the potential to make the Lions a better franchise. Jared Goff is completely serviceable for what we need right now at this moment.
Yeah. But beyond 2023. If he is still the quarterback, they will never get where they need to go. And I have said that, and I will continue to say that. I'm not necessarily saying you have to draft a quarterback in this first round. That's not what I'm saying. You still have Jared Goff for a year, and I know the bus rate of first-round quarterbacks is a lot higher than the success rate.
I understand the numbers, but if you look at Jared Goff on the road versus Jared Goff at Ford Field, night and day. He has a 105 rating at Ford Field and he had an 85 rating on the road. It's obviously gonna be lower now. I'm not gonna sit here and say we gotta get rid of him right now.
Cause I'm not, I'm just, I'm done doing that. I'm done doing that. He's okay when the offense is clicking. But the moment that we got down by two scores, that game was over. Yep. The game was over. He was not coming back. Yep. Ricky thinks it's a running back problem. I mean, Swift has his issues for sure.
I don't think that Goff can get you there. The Rams got to the Super Bowl with Jared Goff in spite of Jared Goff. If you look at those playoff numbers, the playoff numbers for Jared Goff are not great. Now, statistically, is he playing well? Yeah, he is, and again resigned to the fact that he's gonna be our quarterback in 2023.
I have no problem with that. But last year he was the most turnover-prone quarterback in the NFL. He's done a great job protecting the ball over the last seven games. But part of the reason why we were one and six in the first seven games is cuz he was not good at protecting the ball.
Eric Vincent: I also think it's fair to say that a lot of his success is due to a horrible NFC. Looking at a lot of quarterbacks.
A.J. Reilly: I don't want, don't wanna cut you off, I just want to say this real quick, Ricky. No, that's not what I'm saying. No, that's not what I'm saying at all. The way that the entire team played on Saturday, my high school football team probably would've beaten them. They were not good on Saturday. Okay.
That was hyperbole. Don't think I'm crazy. Okay. But Stafford doesn't change the outcome of Saturday at all. But I think that Stafford does change the outcome of the first seven games. I bet you're looking more at a four and three. Looking more maybe at a five and two. I don't think you lose the game against the Vikings as Stafford as your quarterback.
No, I don't think you lose the game. Maybe even against Dallas if he's your quarterback. But that was after the bi-week too. Yeah, but like I think that he would've added a few more wins than Goff would have.
Eric Vincent: He would. I definitely think so. That's not revisionist history, that's just looking at how Stafford is placed.
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